read this if you want to avoid the insurance runaround after an accident

Section Resources

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    Letter requesting surveillance footage from a business;
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    Example telephone script requesting witness statement
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    Example flier/advertisement/letter seeking witnesses
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    Letter asking a witness to sign a witness statement
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    List of questions to ask the insured driver
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    Letter to insurer with driver responses
  • 7
    Letter to insurer following up requested information

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Avoid the Insurance Runaround & get your claim paid quickly.

After a car accident, you're most likely out-of-pocket for repairs or medicals, and frustrated that you're paying for someone else's mistakes.


But you don't have to be.


Get on the phone with someone who knows how to get action and payment from an insurance company. In minutes you could have a clear plan of what to do, what to say, and what comes next


By this time next week you could have your claim sorted and money in your bankIt beats being put on hold forever by an insurer playing the delay game at your expense.

It beats being put on hold forever by an insurer playing the delay game at your expense.

What to do at the scene of an accident

If you’re involved in a motor vehicle accident, the very first thing you should do is look out for your safety (and the safety of those around you). If possible, and if safe to do so, pull your vehicle over. Call an ambulance if you or someone else is injured.

EVIDENCE CHECKLIST

Now, if you are able to, start gathering evidence. You can access your Evidence Checklist online or as a download.

Additionally, start taking notes of what you remember happening. You might think this can wait, but the longer you leave it the blurrier your memories will get.


If police attend, make sure you provide them with your full recount of what happened.

What if you couldn't collect details at the time of the incident?

You might not be capable of gathering evidence at the time of the accident. You might have been badly injured, taken to hospital, or the police might have asked everyone to clear the scene.


No need to worry if you didn’t get evidence at the time of the accident. There is plenty of evidence you can gather afterwards… but it is still best to act fast (you’ll see why).

How to gather surveillance footage

Surveillance, or CCTV, footage can show exactly how an accident happened. Luckily, if you have an accident or injure yourself in a public place, there is a good chance that it was captured on video.

Tracking down, accessing, and protecting surveillance footage can be difficult.


To add to the challenge, public surveillance footage is often erased after a very short time, meaning action needs to be taken quickly.

What about time limits?

Surveillance and CCTV footage often records over itself after a certain period.


Sometimes footage is recorded over in just 20 or 30 days (or even less). This means that you need to act quickly to get the footage before it is erased.

Finding surveillance footage

There are multiple persons who might hold surveillance footage. These include:

  • Business owners;
  • Local council; and
  • State government.

how to find surveillance footage

To narrow down who might have footage, follow these steps:

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    Look around
    Go to the scene of the incident and have a look for any cameras. Cameras can sometimes be hard to spot, but will help you figure out whether footage was taken. Look towards traffic lights, sign posts, and store windows.
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    Think about where you were
    Different groups hold footage of different areas. Here are some clues about who might have captured your incident:
  • On a main street?
    Some local councils hold footage of community areas, including some roads
    and footpaths. Some State government departments hold footage of busy roads and
    intersections.
  • Near a park?
    Some local councils hold footage of community areas, including parks and other places of recreation. Some State government departments hold footage of public areas such as national parks and forests.
  • Near a store or business?
    Many businesses now have CCTV cameras set up for security reasons. These cameras can capture areas near the entry of the store, and even some distance down the street.
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    Near a public facility?
    Some State government departments hold footage of public facilities; such as places of education, libraries, and public hospitals. That footage might extend to car parks, and the perimeters of those facilities.
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    Ask
    Asking nearby businesses, council and/or State government departments can quickly help you find out who does and doesn’t hold footage.

Requesting surveillance footage

The way you request surveillance footage depends on who holds the footage.

Businesses

For businesses, a simple letter asking for footage is sufficient.


It is best to include a brief explanation of why you want the footage, and the time and place that you want the footage to capture.

EXAMPLE LETTER REQUESTING SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE

Need to request surveillance footage? Access and view an example letter online or download it now.

Local Council 

Some local council websites will tell you how to request footage (such as Brisbane City Council). For example, in Brisbane there is an online request form for “CitySafe” footage of certain areas.


Sometimes, you will need to complete a “Right to Information and Information Privacy Access Application” form (such as this Queensland form). In this form, you should state that you believe the footage is held by the council. A fee is often payable to submit the form, and extra fees might apply for copying the footage.

State Government

For State government, you will likely need to complete a “Right to Information and Information Privacy Access Application” form (such as this Queensland form). A fee is often payable to submit the form, and extra fees might apply for copying the footage.

IMPORTANT TIP

Think carefully about who might have footage, act fast and ask to preserve the footage (even if you can’t access it).

Preserving surveillance footage

So you've got the footage...

If you can act quickly and obtain a copy of surveillance footage, then it is up to you to protect that evidence. 

IMPORTANT TIP

It is a good idea to make a backup (or twoof the footage so that it is not accidentally deleted.

So you didn't get the footage...

Some bodies (especially Local and State governments) are hesitant to hand over footage that might affect someone else’s privacy. For example, if someone else’s face is clearly shown in the footage, the government wants to protect that person’s privacy and might not allow you to see the footage.


Some bodies might be slow to answer your request for footage, creating the risk of the footage being erased.


If you are denied access to surveillance footage, or you don't think your request is being looked at in time, the next step is to ask the holder of the footage to protect the footage. This is best done with a telephone call as it's fastest.


If you contact the business owner or government department, explain that you have made a request for footage, and explain that it may be important evidence in an incident causing injuries; they may agree to protect a copy of that footage. They might not provide that footage to you (especially if they previously denied you access to it), but it stops the footage from being permanently deleted.


This gives the holder time to process your request, or gives you time to rebut denied access.

Traffic light evidence

CASE STUDY: JACK

Jack collided with a vehicle in the middle of an intersection controlled by traffic lights. Jack thought he had a green light. The other driver thinks they had a green light.


Who’s right? Well, the options are:

  • Jack had the green light; or
  • The other driver had the green light; or
  • They both had a green light (we’ll explain this one in a moment).

How do you find out which one is true?

Firstly… witnesses, surveillance footage and dash-cam footage can all help you find out what happened.


If you aren’t able to get an answer from any of those sources, then a traffic light sequence report might be the answer.

What is a traffic light sequencing report?

A traffic light sequence report is a record of what a set of traffic lights was doing at a particular time.

What exactly will it tell you?

We must firstly point out that what is in a traffic light sequence report depends on a few things, such as:

  • Who controls the set of traffic lights (e.g. the State government, the local council)
  • How old the traffic lights are
  • What traffic light data is recorded at that set of traffic lights
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    How the controlling body creates traffic light sequence reports

A traffic light sequence report can potentially tell you:

  • What the traffic lights are programmed to do
  • What the traffic lights were actually doing
  • Whether there was any fault in the traffic lights

Where to request a traffic light sequence report?

A good place to start is with the State government: the Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR).


TMR controls many sets of traffic lights. Traffic lights on main roads are usually controlled by TMR.


If TMR doesn’t control the set of traffic lights you are interested in, they can usually point you in the right direction of who does. If it’s not TMR, it’s probably the local council.


You can contact TMR on 13 19 14 and ask whether TMR control the lights on the intersection where your accident happened.

Finding out what is in a traffic light sequence report for the set of lights

Before you go and request any traffic light sequence report, it is a good idea to try to find out what will be in the report. As we mentioned earlier, not every traffic light sequence report is the same.


After you find out who controls the set of traffic lights, call them to find out what sort of information they can offer.


There is often a fee for traffic light sequence reports. You don’t want to pay the fee and then realise the report doesn’t give you any useful information.

Requesting a traffic light sequence report

If the controlling body has told you what is in the report, and you believe that is the information you need, then you should request the report.


Each controlling body has a different process for requesting traffic light sequence reports. You might be asked to send an email, fill out a form, or send a letter. For example, Brisbane City Council requires you to fill out a form, available here.


Ask the relevant body how to request the report, and follow their instructions. If you are required to provide information or pay a fee, do so as soon as possible to make sure your request is not delayed.

REQUEST CHECKLIST

When you make the request, make sure you include the following details:

  • The location of the traffic lights
  • The date of the accident
  • A time frame in which the accident occurred
  • The specific lights you are interested in

When should you request a traffic light sequence report?

...as soon as possible.


As mentioned above, look at what other evidence you have access to (like witnesses and surveillance footage). If none of those sources give you the evidence you need, then look into getting a traffic light sequence report as soon as possible.


Traffic light sequence data is sometimes deleted after a certain period of time. To make sure you don’t miss out, act fast.

FIND

Find as many sources of footage possible.

REQUEST

Request the footage as soon as possible.

RETAIN

Attempt to preserve as many sources of footage.

Witness statements

Witnesses can sometimes be your knights in shining armour in a personal injury claim.


In situations of “he said, she said”, where both parties think the other party was at fault, an independent witness can help to figure out what happened.


Courts value the opinions of independent third parties, because they know that independent third parties are unlikely to be biased.


For this reason, witness statements hold a lot of weight, and can be the piece of evidence that proves the other party was at fault.

How to find witnesses

The easiest and fastest way to track down any witnesses to an accident is to ask for their details at the time of the accident.


If you are able to, ask them for their name and contact details (ideally, you should ask for a few contact details in case you can’t reach them one way).


What if you couldn’t speak to the witnesses at the time of the accident? What if you were injured and taken immediately to hospital?


There’s still hope…


There are many ways to track down witnesses, including:

  • If the police attended, ask the police if they got any contact details for any witnesses.
  • Put up flyers around the accident scene, asking witnesses to contact you.
  • Put an advertisement in the local paper, asking witnesses to contact you.
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    Drop letters in the mailboxes of nearby houses or stores, asking witnesses to contact you.

For an example of what to include in a flier/advertisement/letter drop, see the notice at the end of
this section.

EXAMPLE flyer/advertisement/letter seeking witnesses

Available online or as a download

So you've found a witness

Once you have found a witness, contact them.


This is best done with a telephone call, so that you can explain your situation and ask them questions. We’ve provided you with a guide on what to say.

HOW TO ASK A WITNESS TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT

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    Explain why you need help

It is often useful to explain why you need information from them. For example:


"I was recently involved in a motor vehicle accident at [location] which caused me some injuries. I am bringing a claim for compensation for my injuries against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault. I am not bringing the claim against the actual driver at fault.


As part of the claims process, I have to find out who was at fault for the accident. Since you witnessed the accident, I am hoping that you will be able to provide some details about what happened."


This will help the witness understand why it is so important for them to tell you what they know. Explaining that you are bringing a claim against a CTP insurer also helps witnesses feel more comfortable about helping you (as the won’t feel like they are helping you take money away from another person).

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    Ask your questions

It is important to get the information you need, but it is also important not to lead the witness to say something other than what they know. Some key questions for you to check off are provided in the resource below.

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    Thank them

Make sure you thank the witness for their help. This can be a good point to do that.


Remember, witnesses do not owe you anything.


They do not have to help you. They are taking time to help you, so let them know that you appreciate it.

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    Ask them if they will sign a witness statement

To solidify your evidence, you should try to have your witness sign a witness statement.


Your notes about what a witness said can be easily challenged. But if your witness signs off on your notes, stating that they are correct, the reliability of the document skyrockets.


A good way to ask a witness this is:


“If I type up a statement of what you’ve just told me, would you mind having a
look at it to make sure that I’ve understood you correctly?


If I have misunderstood you in any way, or there is some other error, you can let
me know and I will fix it up.


Once it’s all correct, would you mind signing off on it?”


Again, a witness is not obliged to do this for you. So ask politely, and explain the
importance of it if you have to.

EXAMPLE questions to ask a witness

Available online or as a download

Verifying your witness statements

Now that you have the information you need, it is time to get it verified. You can do this by getting the witness to sign a statement containing that information.


The best way to obtain a statement from a witness is to do the work for them.

EXAMPLE witness statement

Available online or as a download

Once the witness has told you what they know, type it up and take it out to the witness to sign.

EXAMPLE LETTER ASKING WITNESS TO SIGN A WITNESS STATEMENT

Available online or as a download

Information from the other driver

You can always get what you want.

Under section 47 of the Motor Accident Insurance Act 1994 (QLD), a CTP insurer must do the
following when a claimant asks:

  • Give a claimant information about the circumstances of the accident (if it is in the insurer’s
    possession or can be found out from the insured driver); and
  • Verify that information by statutory declaration.
  • Must respond to such a request within 1 month of receiving it.

What does this mean?

It means that you can ask the insurer for information about the accident, and the insurer must
provide the information they can.


This gives the claimant an opportunity to ask the insured driver for details of the accident, such as:

  • What the insured driver recalls about the accident
  • How fast the insured driver was going before the accident
  • Whether the insured driver was under the influence of drugs or alcohol
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    And more

Even better, the insured driver must verify the information by statutory declaration if you ask them
to.

What's the big deal about a statutory declaration?

A statutory declaration has the same effect and consequences as swearing evidence in court. So,
the insured theoretically should tell the truth (or risk facing charges of fraud).

So what sort of questions should you ask?

EXAMPLE LETTER with questions to other driver (or insurer)

Available online or as a download

How do you actually ask the questions?

You can ask the questions by sending a list of questions to the CTP insurer. The CTP insurer will then gather whatever information it needs from the insured driver.

EXAMPLE LETTER to insurer enclosing list of questions

Available online or as a download

What do you do when you've asked the questions?

Wait for one month.


If you have not received any response from the insurer in that time, it is best to follow them up.

EXAMPLE LETTER of follow up to insurer

Available online or as a download

Avoid the Insurance Runaround & get your claim paid quickly.

After a car accident, you're most likely out-of-pocket for repairs or medicals, and frustrated that you're paying for someone else's mistakes.


But you don't have to be.


Get on the phone with someone who knows how to get action and payment from an insurance company. In minutes you could have a clear plan of what to do, what to say, and what comes next


By this time next week you could have your claim sorted and money in your bankIt beats being put on hold forever by an insurer paying the delay game at your expense.

It beats being put on hold forever by an insurer paying the delay game at your expense.

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